MR 1616 Picnic Saloon (body only) built 1886

MR 1616 Picnic Saloon (body only) built 1886This page is a part of the Herritage Railways Carriage Survey project and is hosted on the internet by The Vintage Carriages Trust (VCT), a volunteer body, based on the Keighley & Worth Valley Railway in the United Kingdom. About the Trust: The Vintage Carriages Trust was formed in the late 1960s by a group of volunteers whose interest was in wooden bodied railway carriages. They could see that there was a need to concentrate on the preservation of these historic items which were in grave danger of disappearing due to the weather and vandalism damage and unsuitability for regular use on preserved railways of the day. The Trust became a Registered Charity in 1981 and a Registered Museum in 1992. The Collection held by the Trust is at present nine historic railway carriages, also three small industrial steam locomotives, and a collection of railway posters and other miscellaneous railway items. The Trust owns the Museum of Rail Travel at Ingrow - the first station from Keighley on the Worth Valley Railway. By three phases of building work over the last ten years this has developed into a large museum display and associated workshop, and is the Trustís headquarters. Although the building is named a

MR 1616 Picnic Saloon  (body only) built 1886
MR 1616 Picnic Saloon (body only) built 1886


Present Location North Norfolk
County Location Norfolk
Designed For MR
Build Location Derby
Diagram number 465
Lot number 102
Type SAL
First Number 1616
Later Numbers 3
Present Number 3
Current Livery M&GN
Gauge 4ft 8 1/2in
Wheel Arrangement Body only
Original Underframe No
Original Bogies/Wheelsets No
Additional Notes To M&GN 1903 as No. 3. After 1932, mobile S&T workshop/mess room. W 1935: body to Briston as clubhouse. To private garden 1937/8. Wedding reception 1938. Then radio/ (later) TV workshop. To NNR 2002. By 3/10 temporarily on underframe of SR PMV 1216 but by 05/10 on underframe of 6 wheeler MR 184. Condition now fully restored as M&GN 3 (see main photo).
Owner Midland & Great Northern Joint Railway Society
External Structural Condition Very Good
Internal Structural Condition Very Good
External Finish Very Good
Internal Finish Very Good
Degree of External Originality Conversion/rebuild/reproduction
Degree of Internal Originality Conversion/rebuild/reproduction
Degree of Underframe/Running Gear Originality Not Applicable
Degree of External Authenticity Very Good
Degree of Internal Authenticity Good
Degree of Underframe Authenticity Not Applicable
Rarity Unique
Historical Importance of some Importance
Storage Secure Open
Operating Yes
Survey Date 19/12/2015
Surveyor Nigel Scarlett
Photo Date 07/08/2017
Photo by Ken Hartley
At Risk No
Date Record Last Updated 21/08/2017

MR 184 underframe - photo by Alan Tagg 16/07/2013
MR 184 underframe - photo by Alan Tagg 16/07/2013

Alan Tagg 16/07/2013: earlier view
Alan Tagg 16/07/2013: earlier view




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